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#41 Posted : 26 July 2018 06:41:07(UTC)
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'Boot space is appalling '? It might be if you compare it to some wrong wheel drive chop topped Euro hatch but ..err..the whole point of the MX5 , especially in first and last iterations is tight packaging and low weight. I certainly don;t want to drag around an empty steel box for 99% of my driving but be able to fill it up at the garden centre and Tescos the other 1%. I find the Mk 4 has more than enough space for me- two big squashy bags and a small rucksack in the boot is fit for my purposes
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#42 Posted : 26 July 2018 06:59:13(UTC)
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Mmmmm. How much boot space do you need? My wife and I did a seven day tour of Scotland in our ND and we packed everything we needed including clothes for all weathers, walking boots. numerous pairs of shoes, numerous jackets/fleeces, in two airline hand baggage cases (which the car is designed for) and the space around them . Most of the clothes we took for colder weather weren't worn . Now you might need more space for a two week jaunt but that would come second to owning the ND. I would rather get a boot rack than swap it for an Audi TT. With all that lot on board the 2.0 litre's torque definitely helps for a relaxed thrash free drive.

..really impressed with this. We have just completed a 3 night stay in Lincoln in our Mk2, and I must admit it was a struggle, (and we didn't take any "weather" gear or walking boots). We did use it a few years ago for a week in Scotland and we ended up with a bag on the "back shelf", (or on the stored soft top if it was down...I don't think the Mk4 has this option?). Would love to see how you got it all in!!!

NB Since the previous post I have been "Autotradering", but not many soft top TT's about...at least not within a reasonable distance, (or price)....the search continues..decisions decisions....   

Although I've never owned an Audi I was warned off them by a couple of friends, both of whom had terrible problems with Audi in general. Ripped off for servicing costs and one had utterly shambolic repair work done on a safety issue that actually made the car more dangerous to drive. Too late for the OP but do your research if you are seriously considering Audi.

To the OP, why the obsession with 0-60 times? Does anyone actually give two hoots about them or believe the figures manufacturers quote? Unless you're drag racing at every traffic light then 0-60 times are largely irrelevant. I've never once taken 0-60 times into consideration when buying a car.

 

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#43 Posted : 26 July 2018 13:55:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PeteG Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: stubod Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: First rider off Go to Quoted Post

Mmmmm. How much boot space do you need? My wife and I did a seven day tour of Scotland in our ND and we packed everything we needed including clothes for all weathers, walking boots. numerous pairs of shoes, numerous jackets/fleeces, in two airline hand baggage cases (which the car is designed for) and the space around them . Most of the clothes we took for colder weather weren't worn . Now you might need more space for a two week jaunt but that would come second to owning the ND. I would rather get a boot rack than swap it for an Audi TT. With all that lot on board the 2.0 litre's torque definitely helps for a relaxed thrash free drive.

..really impressed with this. We have just completed a 3 night stay in Lincoln in our Mk2, and I must admit it was a struggle, (and we didn't take any "weather" gear or walking boots). We did use it a few years ago for a week in Scotland and we ended up with a bag on the "back shelf", (or on the stored soft top if it was down...I don't think the Mk4 has this option?). Would love to see how you got it all in!!!

NB Since the previous post I have been "Autotradering", but not many soft top TT's about...at least not within a reasonable distance, (or price)....the search continues..decisions decisions....   

Although I've never owned an Audi I was warned off them by a couple of friends, both of whom had terrible problems with Audi in general. Ripped off for servicing costs and one had utterly shambolic repair work done on a safety issue that actually made the car more dangerous to drive. Too late for the OP but do your research if you are seriously considering Audi.

To the OP, why the obsession with 0-60 times? Does anyone actually give two hoots about them or believe the figures manufacturers quote? Unless you're drag racing at every traffic light then 0-60 times are largely irrelevant. I've never once taken 0-60 times into consideration when buying a car.

 

Well, we’re actually on our 3rd Audi, as well as the TT my wife is on her 2nd A3 and in 7 years of A3 ownership the worst that’s happened is when the fluid pipe to the rear window washer came adrift of the spray nozzle. As far as servicing costs are concerned there are loads of VW group independent specialists out there if needed. However given her current A3 just passed its 3rd birthday when Audi offer reduced price servicing we had an oil change/interim service done at the main dealership for £175 which is about the same as the local Mazda dealer charged me for my last MX5 oil change so from a personal perspective we quite like Audi’s.....

As for the “obsession with 0-60 times” I quite agree but since the manufacturers don’t tend to publish 30-50 or 50-70 times they’re about the only thing that might give any kind of indication. That said if you read my posts properly you’ll note that my major issue with the 1.8 was its overtaking ability (or rather lack of) unless you absolutely “thrashed the pants” off it. The 2.0 was far more reassuring than the 1.8 though I have to say I was really quite impressed with the ND 1.5 as I said earlier.  

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#44 Posted : 27 July 2018 06:42:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perussell Go to Quoted Post

Well, we’re actually on our 3rd Audi, as well as the TT my wife is on her 2nd A3 and in 7 years of A3 ownership the worst that’s happened is when the fluid pipe to the rear window washer came adrift of the spray nozzle. As far as servicing costs are concerned there are loads of VW group independent specialists out there if needed. However given her current A3 just passed its 3rd birthday when Audi offer reduced price servicing we had an oil change/interim service done at the main dealership for £175 which is about the same as the local Mazda dealer charged me for my last MX5 oil change so from a personal perspective we quite like Audi’s.....

As for the “obsession with 0-60 times” I quite agree but since the manufacturers don’t tend to publish 30-50 or 50-70 times they’re about the only thing that might give any kind of indication. That said if you read my posts properly you’ll note that my major issue with the 1.8 was its overtaking ability (or rather lack of) unless you absolutely “thrashed the pants” off it. The 2.0 was far more reassuring than the 1.8 though I have to say I was really quite impressed with the ND 1.5 as I said earlier.  

Well thanks for that condescending remark.  I had read your posts "properly" thank you very much.  I was simply commenting not the fact that your first three posts all referred to 0-60 times (and again in a later post). These are no proxy for or even a good indicator of mid-range acceleration though. FWIW I've found my lowly 1.8 NC feels like it has much better mid-range acceleration than its quoted 0-60. I've also never had any problems overtaking at the mid-range speeds you quote (unless I'm up against a clearly more powerful/faster car). 

Anyway, enjoy your Audi. Like I said, I've never owned one although I had an A4 hire car in Italy a few years back. Very nice but must admit I prefer my Merc. 

 

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#45 Posted : 27 July 2018 07:58:25(UTC)
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Fwiw me and swmbo managed 3 weeks schlepping round Europe including all my camera gear in a mk3. The mk4 will be no less capable.

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#46 Posted : 27 July 2018 09:13:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PeteG Go to Quoted Post

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Well, we’re actually on our 3rd Audi, as well as the TT my wife is on her 2nd A3 and in 7 years of A3 ownership the worst that’s happened is when the fluid pipe to the rear window washer came adrift of the spray nozzle. As far as servicing costs are concerned there are loads of VW group independent specialists out there if needed. However given her current A3 just passed its 3rd birthday when Audi offer reduced price servicing we had an oil change/interim service done at the main dealership for £175 which is about the same as the local Mazda dealer charged me for my last MX5 oil change so from a personal perspective we quite like Audi’s.....

As for the “obsession with 0-60 times” I quite agree but since the manufacturers don’t tend to publish 30-50 or 50-70 times they’re about the only thing that might give any kind of indication. That said if you read my posts properly you’ll note that my major issue with the 1.8 was its overtaking ability (or rather lack of) unless you absolutely “thrashed the pants” off it. The 2.0 was far more reassuring than the 1.8 though I have to say I was really quite impressed with the ND 1.5 as I said earlier.  

Well thanks for that condescending remark.  I had read your posts "properly" thank you very much.  I was simply commenting not the fact that your first three posts all referred to 0-60 times (and again in a later post). These are no proxy for or even a good indicator of mid-range acceleration though. FWIW I've found my lowly 1.8 NC feels like it has much better mid-range acceleration than its quoted 0-60. I've also never had any problems overtaking at the mid-range speeds you quote (unless I'm up against a clearly more powerful/faster car). 

Anyway, enjoy your Audi. Like I said, I've never owned one although I had an A4 hire car in Italy a few years back. Very nice but must admit I prefer my Merc. 

 

Wasn’t meant to be condescending but there you go.  Yes, I like Mercs too, that’s why my everyday runner is a 6 month old Merc 😉 and the TT a weekend runabout  

 

 

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#47 Posted : 12 August 2018 23:48:54(UTC)
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Hi, just going through the dilemma of swap the 2litre Roadster coupe Miyako for a 2018 mk4. Took a test drive last week and whilst the mk 4 was an easy car to drive with light and precise controls and had adequate performance on the drive home in our 2011 car we both decided that we liked the mk 3.5 better. There is more cabin and boot space and surprisingly it seemed a lot brighter in the cabin. The slightly larger back window also made reversing easier. my wife commented that the over the shoulder blind spot seemed huge and even though the mk4 had reversing sensors you would have to rely on your mirror. Additionally where the current car has a height adjustable drivers seat the mk4 has a slide and rise system and my wife at 5,3” could not get in a good driving position.  Bottom line we will keep our current car and look for a 64/15 plate latest registration mk3.75 if and when we decide to change.

On paper it looked like a no brainier to buy the new car but in reality it Was not for us.

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I came to very similar conclusions in my recent ND test drive. It is a lovely car to drive but just felt too small for me as my main car. I was fine with the space in my NC so I feel that Mazda missed a trick on practicality.

 

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