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#1 Posted : 12 October 2018 11:53:23(UTC)
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Any idea what‘s causinh this straight vertical line on the sill of a car I’m looking at?

https://imgur.com/a/8ZifcQa

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#2 Posted : 12 October 2018 12:22:55(UTC)
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You should see another on the opposite side too! Id be a little concerned if they weren't showing. It would be a sign of previous, poor quality repair. It's the join between rear quarter panel and sill. Some corrosion showing on the pic too.

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#3 Posted : 12 October 2018 12:31:29(UTC)
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So not dreaded sill corrosion but some external rusting in the seam?

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#4 Posted : 12 October 2018 12:59:21(UTC)
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that seam doesn't really look all original to me. It looks like there could have been a repair or something, and the rust could well be from the inside.  Paint on the sills not looking original either.. 

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#5 Posted : 12 October 2018 14:04:47(UTC)
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I'm inclined to agree with Martin, and the sill line should be straight, that one appears to curve either up or inwards.
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Originally Posted by: martin Go to Quoted Post

that seam doesn't really look all original to me. It looks like there could have been a repair or something, and the rust could well be from the inside.  Paint on the sills not looking original either.. 

 

It should be black as it's a MK1

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Originally Posted by: Gerryn Go to Quoted Post
I'm inclined to agree with Martin, and the sill line should be straight, that one appears to curve either up or inwards.

Not wanting to enter a debate in this but more than likely the camera angle is to blame for this? Looking again at the pic, the stone chip looks rather smooth and the sill and bottom of the arch should be black along the bottom edge (OEM finish on the mk1's) so a good indicator of work being carried out. 

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#8 Posted : 12 October 2018 14:23:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zester Go to Quoted Post

Any idea what‘s causinh this straight vertical line on the sill of a car I’m looking at?

https://imgur.com/a/8ZifcQa

 

"They all do it Sir"

See the prefit join?

That looks rough though, perhaps a poor repair, and by the nature of the beast more than likely heralds "what lies beneath"

 

Image result for replacement rear wing mazda mk1

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#9 Posted : 12 October 2018 14:25:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bettabuilda Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gerryn Go to Quoted Post
I'm inclined to agree with Martin, and the sill line should be straight, that one appears to curve either up or inwards.

Not wanting to enter a debate in this but more than likely the camera angle is to blame for this? Looking again at the pic, the stone chip looks rather smooth and the sill and bottom of the arch should be black along the bottom edge (OEM finish on the mk1's) so a good indicator of work being carried out. 

Barrie

 

 

Correct of course Barrie.

So saying, I'm "opting" for body colour post rebuild. Just think it will look nicer...like our Mk2.5.

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#10 Posted : 12 October 2018 14:26:09(UTC)
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The image is from a video; I’ve uplloaded the whole thing here;

 

https://imgur.com/a/VdmbCsO

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#11 Posted : 12 October 2018 14:33:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zester Go to Quoted Post

The image is from a video; I’ve uplloaded the whole thing here;

 

https://imgur.com/a/VdmbCsO

 

It'd be interesting to stick a magnet on that lot to see how much Bondo is there frankly. 

Being candid, though hard to be objective from a distance, I just get several whiffs of multitudes of sins. 

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#12 Posted : 13 October 2018 10:23:00(UTC)
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lots of overspray to be seen on front mud flap !!
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#13 Posted : 13 October 2018 13:04:44(UTC)
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It a 20 odd years old car.

If it is safe, drive and enjoy.

If it is not safe, do not drive it.

There has been plenty water under the bridge in that time.

It looks like a car that has been refurbed, we cannot tell if it has been well done or tarted up.

Get the car on a lift and have a trusted bodyshop check it out and also take the car to a trusted MOT centre to redo the MOT as a second opinion.

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#14 Posted : 13 October 2018 17:13:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bally3 Go to Quoted Post
lots of overspray to be seen on front mud flap !!

 

Well, that is because it has been repainted. The stone chip has been completely redone; as mentioned. it is over 20 years old.

 

As for "bondo" (I'm sure the poster were referring to UK brands of filler, not a specific American brand), it is essentially impossible to complete sill or arch repairs on a MX5 without recourse to the use of fillers. The only way to avoid the use of fillers is by complete rear wing replacement, at a cost of £1500-2000 per side. (based n a member's bill for 2 wings and half repaint from over 10 years ago).

 

If someone is worried about a filler repair (or worse), take a feel on the rear arch lip, at the base. Careless bodgers will miss globs of filler/fiberglass used to build up a disintegrated wing lip.

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#15 Posted : 13 October 2018 22:02:53(UTC)
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As mentioned, drive and enjoy, drive and enjoy, drive and enjoy, drive and enjoy ....

 

...... and be prepared for some bodywork rust repair in the future.

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#16 Posted : 14 October 2018 09:52:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: saz9961 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: bally3 Go to Quoted Post
lots of overspray to be seen on front mud flap !!

 

Well, that is because it has been repainted. The stone chip has been completely redone; as mentioned. it is over 20 years old.

 

As for "bondo" (I'm sure the poster were referring to UK brands of filler, not a specific American brand), it is essentially impossible to complete sill or arch repairs on a MX5 without recourse to the use of fillers. The only way to avoid the use of fillers is by complete rear wing replacement, at a cost of £1500-2000 per side. (based n a member's bill for 2 wings and half repaint from over 10 years ago).

 

If someone is worried about a filler repair (or worse), take a feel on the rear arch lip, at the base. Careless bodgers will miss globs of filler/fiberglass used to build up a disintegrated wing lip.

 

Ok---ok...."filler" then.

Up to 4k on what was, I presume, a Mk1?

That seems expensive for the time.

I had a full engine-out full twin chassis rail & inner/outer rear wings re-metalling + 80% repaint & lacquer with zero over-spray...finished off with copious amounts of anti rot injections at FozSports Coach Builders for an all up of £2,800.00. It's still all solid and rot free 6 years on.  

Mind you, the work eventually required somewhat exceeded expectations upon which the firm quote was based, which they adhered with the result they won't touch rot on a 5 again but are prepared to do minor body-paint corrections.  

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